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Would You Rent to This Tenant?

Friday, July 10, 2009 | Ethan Roberts

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There's an old relationship adage of "I'd rather be alone than wish I were." When you own rental properties, the same attitude of not settling for just any tenant in this tough economic environment and waiting "till the right one comes along" can pay off big for the discerning property owner.

This month, a couple of my rental properties are going vacant.  This is something every landlord has to deal with once in a while, but recently the task of finding good-quality tenants has become -- well, shall I say -- a bit more challenging.

For example, I received this e-mail recently, in response to an ad I had posted for one of the rentals:

"My lease is up where I'm currently renting at the end of this month, and I'm very interested in renting a home.  We are good, responsible tenants with no pets, and we are non-smokers.

"We don't have the money upfront for first-month's rent and security deposit.  Is there any flexibility with the security deposit?  We could pay a couple hundred a month extra for the first four or five months, if that's an option."

This gentleman must think I am clueless!  Oh, I see, they are "responsible," but they don't have enough in savings for a $900 security deposit?  Won't they get back their deposit money when they leave their current rental?  If not, I have to wonder why.



This woman probably thinks she is 'responsible' too...

So I responded, as politely as I could -- something along the lines of:

"Sorry, but I won't assume the risk of taking someone on who does not have the first month's rent and the security deposit.  If tenants are so low on savings that they can't come up with first-month's rent and security, then they are just one emergency (expensive car repair, job cutback, illness, etc.) away from not being able to pay the rent at all."

Furthermore, the chances of my getting the security deposit a few hundred at a time over four to five months are slim to none.  Believe me, I have been there.  Who needs that?

A Changing Dynamic


These days, I am noticing a big difference when I interview tenants in comparison with years past.  Now, not only am I interviewing them, but they are interviewing me back! 

Prospective applicants now routinely ask me things that tenants have never asked before:

  • Are you going to sell the house? 
  • Is it going into foreclosure? 
  • Are you behind in your mortgage payments?

These are all valid questions, for sure, but they really took me by surprise when I first heard them.  Tenants may not realize that -- even if the home is sold -- because they have a valid lease, they cannot be evicted. 

The new owner simply becomes the new landlord, and must follow the terms of the pre-existing lease, until it is finished.  However, at that point, the tenant could be asked to vacate.

Additionally, there are landlords who are taking payments from tenants without telling them that the home is going into foreclosure.  Some of these landlords are upside-down on their mortgages, and they simply pocket the tenant's money without making any mortgage payments. 

Then, one day, there comes a knock on the door, and a local authority or process server is telling the bewildered tenant that the home that they just moved into, is soon going to be sold at auction.

Tenants' Rights Can Actually Benefit the Owner


The good news for tenants is that the law is now looking out for them a bit more.  Recent federal legislation requires banks to give tenants at least 90 days' notice of any pending foreclosure, and if there is a signed lease in effect, the bank must honor the length of the lease. 

In my home state of Florida, a bank previously had the right to remove a tenant from a home in default within 24 hours. If the tenants balked at leaving, they would face a forced eviction.  What a terrible plight for an innocent tenant who has been making their rent payments regularly to their landlord!

One weakness of the new law is that it does not require the owner to disclose foreclosure proceedings to prospective tenants. 

On the one hand, this is great for the owner, because no tenant in their right mind would want to lease from them under the threat of removal.  It's also possible that the owner could be behind in his mortgage payments and needs the rent to help him catch up and stave off foreclosure.

On the other hand, there is an ethical problem (at least in my mind) with an owner setting up a tenant for an eviction by not divulging the possibility of the foreclosure.  Unless he asks, the only way a tenant can find out this information on his own is to do the research through the county clerk's office, to see if a lis pendens (first notice of foreclosure) has been filed against the property. 

But most tenants are unaware that they can or need to do this, or how to even find out that information.  So, some of them have taken to asking the landlords now before they sign the lease.



Timeline from first missed payment through foreclosure auction...

Some property-management companies have now begun asking the property owners to attest that they are not behind in their payments or facing foreclosure, before signing an agreement with them to manage the property. 

However, unless the property management company were to send the owner an updated notice every few months, they would have no way of knowing if at any point in the future the owner were falling behind on his payments.

How Can You 'Secure' the Right Tenant?

As an owner, you've got some research of your own to do.

In these tough times, when I am looking for a new tenant -- in addition to the usual things that I look for, such as having decent credit and a job -- I need to find out, how secure is that tenant's job? 

It would be better to have an empty property for a while longer, than to have a new tenant lose their job shortly after moving into the rental and then stop making, or start being late with, their monthly payments. 

While very few jobs are 100% "guaranteed," there are some jobs that are more stable than others.  In my area of Northeast Florida, we have several navy bases.  Military jobs are about as stable as one can expect.  I have one tenant who is in the navy, and her monthly rent check arrives on time like clockwork. 

For landlords who are concerned about the stability of their tenants' jobs, I would recommend doing a routine check of their place of employment.  Another option would be to rent to tenants on the Section 8 program, in which case the government guarantees a large percentage of the monthly rent to the landlord. 

However, the Section 8 program can be risky for many other reasons, such as unlawful activity or damage to the home.  So, one has to weigh the risks against the potential rewards.



Military personnel make excellent tenants...

'Because I Said So!'

Successful landlords have always had to be tough, because the landlord-tenant relationship tends to mimic the parent-child roles.  Tenants can behave like small children at times.  They will test you time and again to see how much they can get away with, before you have to put your foot down. 

Landlords who are afraid of being assertive with their tenants will quickly find themselves on the short end of the financial stick.  Overall, tenants do not care, nor want to hear about, your mortgage payment or your other expenses.


'Tenant' reacts to landlord's pleas of needing his overdue rent to pay the mortgage...

Incidentally, a landlord should never rent to friends, family or co-workers, because it becomes much more difficult to take the necessary actions if and when the rent is not paid.  Personal relationships can be ruined over disputes, whether related to rent, repairs, property condition or anything else that occurs. 

Landlords should never befriend their tenants, either.  I knew a landlord who would go over to his rental property and watch football with the tenants on Sunday afternoons.  They would have a few beers and enjoy the game together like old pals. 

But a few months later, when the tenants couldn't pay their rent, they were sure that their new "buddy," the landlord, would understand and cut them some slack. 

Soon thereafter, this landlord lamented to me that he still wasn't getting his rent money, but he admitted that he didn't want to be "mean" to the tenants.

MEAN?!

So, during the next week, this tough landlord and Tycoon writer is looking for a few tough tenants.  I want a tenant who is tough enough to have learned the discipline of saving a few bucks in the bank in case of emergencies.  I want a tenant who is tough enough to do his job effectively and competently, so he becomes the last guy the boss wants to lay off during a recession. 

However, if he does get laid off, I want a tenant who is tough enough to go out and deliver pizzas or work at McDonald's -- anything rather than sitting on his keister awaiting his unemployment check, while he whines to me that he can't pay his rent. 

I consider myself to be a high-quality landlord, one who provides his tenants with a pristine, clean property that's in good repair.  The quid pro quo that I expect from the tenants is for them to simply pay their rent on time and take good care of the home for the length of their lease.

So here I am, looking for a few tough men and women to rent my properties during the tough times ahead...





A 'sign' of the times...


Tycoon landlords: Have an interesting recent story to share about your tenants?  I'd love to hear it.

See you next week!


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  1. Coleen (18 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    RE: Letter from Ethan requesting our "what-ever" about being a "landlord".



    First .....a little back-ground.

    I re-married | 48 in 1988,

    His 4 kids were gone from home, and mine also.

    (Thank-goodness---we would have split otherwise, I think!)

    He had a house. I had a house. We rented out mine

    Renting-out went well, and in a few years we bought 2 homes.

    One with our saved 15,000.00, and one with a credit card | 0% int.

    By age 55, I had learned how to:

    Lay carpet, fix toilets & sinks, hang drywall, mud and texture walls, & paint like a pro.

    We bought "cheap" and renovated, & did all work ourselves.

    We bought & sold thru-out the years, after we learned the MAIN thing to remember is buy in a good location. And buy "well."

    We now have 8, all paid for.

    Things you should know:

    Don't be lenient. Stick to the contract.

    If you can't do the work yourself, don't buy. It won't be feasible to make money.

    If you have to evict someone,(and you will) it will cost you at least $1,000-$2000.

    Keep extra money handy for:

    Taxes--Insurance--City Inspections--furnaces-- water-heaters-- AC.-- sidewalk repair-- carpets-- laminate-- vinyl-- walls and shingles; and

    Loss of rent and cost of utilities when between renters.

    Insist on entire deposit before they move in.

    Ask them if they will let you quickly view their present home; as it is the only way you will know how they will take care of yours.

    Good renters-home-keepers will be thrilled to show you.

    If they say "no", you don't want them anyway.

    If they say they live with mom, or pop, or a friend, find out why. It could be they were just evicted.

    Show them where furnace filters go, and tell them they save on their utility bills when they keep them clean.

    Many times I had to pay a furnace-man and the only problem was no air-flow to the furnace or AC.

    Show them where water turn-offs are to outside, and what to do before each winter. (Drain and close)

    Burst-pipes are expensive.

    Don't buy large homes...You will rent to larger families, and of course have more wear and tear on everything.

    1 or 2 bedroom homes are great.

    Check with utility companies on avg. cost of water and gas. It tells you a lot about how well house is insulated.

    Also, if a small house; it costs you less to heat when vacant, for instance, between renters.

    We have a good record:

    One home has had the same family for 13 years now, one is 11 years, one 5 years and 4 for 4 years. This is what you strive for.

    I keep the rent down, and they respect me, and I , them.

    It's also cheaper than having to clean and paint and advertise...........and moving in and out is hard on homes.

    2 homes...our 3 bedroom ones, have been a problem keeping same renters. Maybe they didn't realize the cost of utilities, etc. They all claim a different reason, so I don't know why.

    I have a lady manage them now, because I'm a softie, and she isn't.

    She does the back-ground check on them, even criminal records.

    I still paint entire inside of homes (if one is ever available again), cause I love to paint.

    All other work we hire done now.

    We are 68 and 79.

    I wouldn't advise doing the fix and rent thing, unless you can pay for the house first. Homes are to expensive now.

    Find a fixer-upper, do the work, and then sell it. We did that with one. It worked great. Much less hassle.

    Times are different now...

    We trust these strangers to hold our retirement in their hands. Many abuse that situation.

    Think long and hard before doing it.

    I must say, it's probably good for you though...I'm 68, look 58, and feel 28. We are blessed!

    I would never have an apt. complex.....it's hard enough to find ONE family that gets along in one building!

    Just buy wisely, work hard, and be proud of yourself if it works out.

    Many people say "I used to do that, I had enough of it!!"

    All our homes are worth at least 50,000 and above now, and have been rented all this time.

    Can't hardly buy a cracker box for that now!

    Hope I haven't bored you, and good-luck, and please keep Ethan (and me) informed on how your doing if you do it!



    Coleen, from Iowa
  2. Coleen (18 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Barb,



    Look in phone book for apt or condo #;s, call a few and someone will tell you who to call, if they can't themselves.
  3. emdfl (18 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Your "never rent to friends, etc". is spot on. I rented my apartment to a "friend' from work and had to leave on an extended road trip. He was to pay the wife while I was gone. $2500 down the tubes + utilities later I finally managed to get rid of him.
  4. Barbara (18 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    I have been on both sides of the coin. Your renters are asking questions which have been heard on the T.V. in the past months and I agree with them. I am currently renting a luxury condo and will be looking to find another luxury condo in the upcoming year. I am looking for a company who deals in this particular category? Do you know how I find this type of agency? I was lucky with the condo I am in now. It was rented through a friend. I no longer am interested in buying, I just want to lease for the next 5 to 10 years. Thanks.
  5. DONNA (19 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Make sure that you have a clause in the lease that the person who is applying for the lease is going to occupy the property. I rented a condo to one woman who promptly put her incorrigible 18 year old daughter in the property. I guess it was better to put her in a rent rather than deal with her at home. She caused alot of problems, parties, drugs, noise etc .. not only were the neighbors not happy, it was difficult to get her out.
  6. Coleen (19 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Wow...wonderful article. I can't wait to write my tidbits, hints, gains & woes as a landlord. I own 8 homes, all paid for by renters! I haven't time now; but stay tuned.....Coleen
  7. David (19 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    You should include friends of friends in that list of 'do not rent to'.

    I had a friend ask me if one of their friends could rent a property I had available. It had just been redecorated and I was in the middle of renovating another property and was unsure whether I should rent the property because I might have to sell it. I discussed the issue with the prospective tennants and renting a property that may be sold was not an issue. However when it came time to put the property on the market a Jeckell and Hyde story eventuated. The tenant stopped paying their rent and was rude to the land agent and prospective purchasers. The absurd aspect of it was that if they had behaved properly they would have been allowed to stay in the property under the new landlord. It took to Christmas eve to get them out. Not a very good christmas present for them but not for me either. Being broke at Christmas and having to rely on the good will of others including getting damage done to the property repaired on credit untill the property was sold made it difficult for a lot of people.

    It does however illustrate the point that honesty and integrety is important and that includes being fair to your tenants.
  8. Will (19 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Mr Roberts, I'm currently looking to purchase my first residential property which will have additional rental units; and should produce a positive cash flow. I will be a novice landlord at the very start. However, is it possible you can share some of your wisdom with someone who will be a Landlord for the first time. thanks
  9. Ethan R (19 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Earl, of course that is ludicrous. Our esteemed government loves to do more of what has already been shown to NOT work! Good point, you raised.



    Nandan: Thanks for your concern, but my properties will never go into foreclosure, as long as there is a breath left in my body.



    Just A: I would rent to a trader, so long as they can show me a steady profitable income, and they have sufficient reserves in the bank or brokerage account.



    Jerry: I agree!
  10. Earl (19 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Ethan, since you are the primary real estate expert on this site can you tell me if this makes any sense,please: The WSJ reported recently that both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are going to be accepting mortagages which are up to 125% of the value of the mortgaged property. In view of what we are no going through in the realty market is this insane, or a reasonable action?? Thanks.

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