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How YOU Can Turn a $4 Trillion Dollar Loss into Huge Profits...

Thursday, October 9, 2008 | Dylan Jovine

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I DON'T TRY TO TIME ASSETS, I TRY TO PRICE THEM.

That's why I'm the wrong guy to ask if you want to know which direction I think the market is headed.

The way I see it, stocks aren't intangible pieces of paper that trade up or down with the wind. I look at them as a fractional piece of a business: once I determine what the business is worth the majority of my time is spent "stalking" it. But what I'm stalking is price, and so far during my career that means that I've seen truly great opportunities only a handful of times each decade.

So far my career has been like going to the grocery store and only seeing one item on sale for 50% off. If it's an item I need, like shaving cream, I'm so thrilled I have the opportunity to buy it at such a great discount, I usually load up.

But boy is that changing!

The way the market has been trading these days, I feel like each and every single item in the grocery store of corporate America is being marked down - by 10% each week! It won't be long before they open the doors and I'm skipping down the aisle loading as many money-making assets in my cart as I can possibly hold!

That's why I know that when the history books are written, these days will be referred to as "The Great Old Days"...

The days when most people forgot that the other side of the panic coin is OPPORTUNITY...

The days when most of America forgot what every experienced farmer knows - that every decade has a couple drought years. Sure, this "drought" may be longer than the last one or the one before that. But never once does it cross your mind that it might never rain again. You just wait it out and use it as an opportunity to add to your land.

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Where the Real Value Is...

Speaking of "adding to your land"...

I don't talk much about real estate these days because our resident housing guru Ethan Roberts is about as smart of a guy as I know on the subject I'm about to discuss with you.

But over the years, friends have asked me countless times to let them know when housing prices look good again. I suspect many of you reading this are in the same boat my wife and I are in - we've been waiting on the sidelines for years waiting for prices to come back to reality.

Every time I've been asked the question, I've always responded with: "It'll be hard to find the time to call everyone back  when I'm about to buy. But if you really want to know, sign up for The Tycoon Report and I promise I'll write about it when the time is right."

Well, for those of you who asked, the time is now right: With the value of home equity in the country dropping from $20 trillion to $16 trillion, an unprecedented 20% drop in a little over a year. Since much of that $4 trillion has come from hard hit states like Florida and California, I'm starting to see prices that were unheard of just months ago.

As I mentioned before I don't time assets, I price them. So in no way, shape or form am I calling a "bottom" on the housing market. What I'm saying is that if you know how to value you home, then this is a time when you want to start getting your bids ready and wait for the house you want to fall into your price range.

Don't you just value a home based on "Comps" (Comparable Sales)? No. During the past few years, I've seen too many people do very irrational things at very expensive prices and the last thing I want to do is have a bad decision influence my decision-making.

...And How to Value It

I use several tools to "price" a house, but one that many people seem to really appreciate is the Price to Income Ratio (P/I).

Remember back when housing prices were actually based on incomes? When a lender actually verified to check to see if the borrower made enough money to pay the loan back? Well, you could bet your bottom dollar that after the destruction caused by the housing crisis, those old fashioned rules are gonna come back quicker than you could say "Worst Crisis Since the Great Depression."

Here's how it works: Assuming a borrower has decent credit and the necessary down payment, she will get a mortgage that generally won't exceed 28% of her income. 28% of the income of a person who earns $50,000/year is $14,000 or $1,166.66 per month ($14,000/12 months).

Assuming that for every $100,000 she borrows she has to pay back $665/month, she'll be able to borrow roughly $175,000 ($1,166.66 monthly loan/$665 per month for every $100,000 borrowed).

Including her down payment of $25,000, the total price of the home is $200,000 ($25,000 down payment $175,000 mortgage). Thus, her Price to Income Ratio is 4 ($200,000/$50,000 Income).

Below is a table of Price to Income Ratio's from 1985 - 2002 in selected states across America.

In Florida, for example, statewide average annual income is approximately $48,000 (www.census.gov). The median P/I ratio of 3.04 would imply that the median house in Florida sold for $145,920 between 1985 - 2002. Because states are so large and diverse, a statewide P/I ratio can be misleading. I make the following adjustments personally:

1. Income by Zip Code Adjustments: Not all areas of the state have the same income. In Palm Beach County, for example, annual income can be as high as $125,000 in some zip codes. The median P/I of 3.04 for Florida would imply that median sale price for homes in that zip code would be $380,000 ($125,000 x 3.04).

2. Neighborhood Adjustments: Feel free to add a premium or a discount to the P/I ratio based on other factors important to you. For example, if you are comparing two zip codes you may want to adjust the P/I a bit higher for the zip code with higher annual income, schools, parks, etc.

3. House Adjustments: Of course every house is different and unique and you can rationalize an adjustment based on factors important to you.

Before I depart, let me leave you with the following words of caution: you may be shocked at the difference between what prices are still selling for relative to what they are worth. Keep in mind that it takes time for markets to adjust, especially a market where it seems most sellers are pricing their homes to what they owe on their mortgage, not to what the house is actually worth.

[Editor's Note: Tycoon Readers, what do you think about the housing market right now? Time to buy? Not just yet? Leave your comments by clicking the button below.]

Ratio of Home Price to Personal Income per Capita (1985-2002)
State Median Trough Peak
Connecticut 5.41 4.47 7.84
New Hampshire 4.68 3.98 6.63
California 6.76 5.96 8.57
Massachusetts 4.97 4.34 6.60
New Jersey 5.25 4.48 6.77
New York 4.54 3.83 5.60
Texas 2.48 2.20 3.59
Louisiana 2.56 2.42 3.53
Alaska 3.26 2.48 4.07
Mississippi 2.28 2.21 3.15
Maryland 4.01 3.62 4.69
Delaware 3.62 3.33 4.14
Colorado 2.60 2.19 3.18
Virginia 3.47 3.04 3.87
Georgia 2.76 2.58 3.25
Arizona 3.53 3.38 4.17
Arkansas 2.22 2.13 2.84
Florida 3.04 2.80 3.51
Pennsylvania 2.70 2.43 3.14
Alabama 2.38 2.31 2.84
Michigan 1.93 1.69 2.37
Minnesota 2.40 2.27 2.92
North Carolina 2.60 2.50 2.98
West Virginia 2.32 2.22 2.79
South Carolina 2.69 2.57 3.06
Kansas 1.97 1.84 2.30
Illinois 2.74 2.57 2.87
Iowa 1.78 1.68 1.92
Indiana 2.12 2.03 2.25
Ohio 2.34 2.27 2.46
SOURCE: Shiller-Case 2003


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  1. Leana (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    I think I will wait to buy a place in Florida until Jan or Feb
  2. Martin (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Dylan,



    This would be a good idea to bring back Fallen Angel Stocks.



    Martin
  3. KLong (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Not just yet!



    I think its closer to the time to buy the stock market than real estate. The level of despair is much higher among investors. The news is much worse, and the media has been fanning the flames to much higher extremes.



    Now, I certainly cannot call the bottom accurately. I really dont care for buying tops or bottoms either. As investors we are polar opposites. The last thing I want, is to own anything in the market. To me value is just an indicator. What I want to buy is price action. What makes me sleep well at night is an stop loss order that I simply manage at the end of the day.



    However, when it comes to tangible items, I follow value. I shop the sales. When I have a large purchase I wait for my price. But there is absolutely nothing in the stock market I wish to own in this manner. The last thing I want to own is a piece of somebody elses company, that I dont understand. What I understand is price movement, trend and range, retracement and consolidation breakouts, and volume. What I buy are educated guesses, calculated risks, measured moves, and managed positions.



    What I'm getting at is value as a market indicator is ok, its a good indicator. As a buying tool is best when used for tangibles that you need to buy, or want to own, such as the house. You could probaly buy a house now, or in the near future, and get a good price. But like any value investment, it is something to own, not trade. The real value goes far beyond the simple price you pay. Its the rent you dont pay someone else, its the improvements you can make and benefit from, its the home your family lives in, its the dirt under your feet, that you own.



    Value can be used as an investment criteria, obviously, especially when your investing large amounts of money for the long term. But most of us have smaller amounts of money and are capable of moving much quicker. The comparable returns between investing long term and trading on any time frame are astronomical. As a long term investor you really need to know a lot to make over sized returns. As a trader all you have to do is flow, up and down with the winds of change, manage your position sizes and maintain your stops. Take what you get, and move on to the next trend. Its as simple as drawing lines on a weekly chart of the S&P, and buying and holding when its going up, and selling and holding when its going down, and sitting out when you dont know. It does not need to be any more complicated than this, and it can be done on any time frame one feels comfortable trading in. Without any knowledge of what one is trading. Just drawing lines on a chart. The problem is accepting it.



    We all have been trained to work, to be useful, to create, in order to make money. But in the market it is rarely worth the effort in comparison to just sitting and watching, and timing the moves. I am not there yet, but I know it. Its a proccess of elimination, little by little, one by one, eliminating the stupid ideas that I can do more than the obvious, or that I need to do more than follow the obvious. Its the balance of time, and money, and effort.
  4. Jeremy (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    As my wife abd I are in the same boat as you i.e. paying rent,thank you for this excellent perspective. We live in British Columbia and though the housing market has slowed it has not fallen where we live yet.
  5. LINNSTAEDT (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    IS THERE A FACTOR SUCH AS TAXES, INSURANCE, INCOME AND MAINTENANCE THAT SHOULD BE FACTORED INTO THE EQUATION AND IF NOT, WHY NOT?
  6. Morris (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Dylan,

    How did you price "Your stock assets" when the markets were much higher??? All this garbage about value type investing is a half truth. Did you sell overpriced stocks..When you discovered corp. earnings changing, negatively, how did you handle your portfolio..did you see this bear...do you relize that in the "Great depression", those great old days, that 17 of the 30 dow stocks filed bankruptcy"?? Great investors have one thing in common, forgetting those that can dollar cost average every month, and that is they managed their losses so losses were never significant enough to put them out of the game..with your stock market statements you apparently don't believe in that phylosophy.

    I have made a considerable amount of money in real estate..I believe that there are only a few times in any individuals lifetime that real estate presents terrific, safe, investing opps..you value RE the same way you value any risk reward equation...what is the risk and what is the return compared to a US Treasury issue. If, after creating a sound feasability statement, you have measured the risk you then compare the return to the 10 year treas. and make your decision on where to price the property. Today I believe most investment props. should be in the 11-14% range but in fact are around the 7.5-9% cap. rate.. Stay away unless you get paid for this risk..corporations can default as easy as individuals....Anyway...Mo
  7. Alexander H (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Thank you for your article. Very good advice. Enjoyed reading it!
  8. Larry (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Great article Dylan! Thanks for the info. I thought most prices were set to the mortgage they owe and not to what the market wants to bring.I have a better understanding of what we can afford now. We're not ready until the market corrects much more.

    Thanks in advance too Ethan. I'm lookin' forward to your take on this too.

    Larry B.
  9. Ethan R (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Dylan, very thoughtful advice. A few thoughts I had were:



    1) In a state like Florida, wouldn't the large number of retirees who live here change the median income numbers? How do we account for that, and do we factor that in?



    2) Buy a foreclosure! Cast off the P/I chains that subject you to a higher monthly debt ratio! That $200,000 home you mentioned can be purchased for $150,000 or $160,000 in many areas right now. I will have more on that in my article tomorrow.



    P.S. Thanks for the compliment. EthanR
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