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Catching Falling Knife Stocks? A Bloody Mistake!

Thursday, January 10, 2008 | Ethan Roberts Is this Spam?

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What is it about "catching the falling knife", the term that describes buying stocks or other investments when they have fallen considerably in price within a short period of time, that is so attractive to people?

I knew an "investor" once, and falling knife stocks were all that he bought!  Usually it was some low priced tech company below $5 a share.  He felt that this made for a great bargain, and that in time he would be rewarded.  Some times he was correct, but more often than not the stock would either languish for months or continue to fall in price.

Recently we have witnessed falling knives in homebuilder, financial, and retail stocks.  Along the way, at various points, people have rushed in to buy these stocks, and then have been sorry.

Remember that for every seller there is a buyer.  That means that someone bought Countrywide (CFC) at 20, at 15, at 10, and even at 5.12!  Ouch!

It is not my intention to pick on any one particular stock.  Other financial stocks like Washington Mutual (WM), Fannie Mae (FNM), retailers, such as Coach (COH), and restaurants such as Darden (DRI) have all been sliced in half by the knife.  You will frequently hear that these stocks are a great buy at current beaten down levels.  But that is often faulty logic.

We need to learn the lesson of the last bear market, 2000-2002.  Tech stock companies that were cut from $100 to $20 were not great buys.  They either went out of business, fell to 5 bucks a share, or took years and years to come back.

People say "buy ABC stock" at the current price, and it will be a great long term play.  But what good is holding a stock for two years that will languish or go lower? 

Personally, I would rather find another stock, like XYZ that goes up over that two year period, then when ABC looks like it has bottomed and begins to rise, I can take my profits from XYZ, and buy ABC.

Some people rush to be the first contrarian to buy the falling knife stock.  I believe this is an ego trip that is antithetical to prudent investing strategy.  Their desire may be to boast to others that they bought ABC stock 20 cents from the bottom, and then rode it up for a huge profit.  But it seldom works out that way.

One thing to realize is that when a stock falls precipitously, there is tremendous resistance that is then established at the higher prices.  All the people who bought WM at $40 and $35 and $30 and $15 are all pleading, "Just let me get back to even, Lord, and I promise I will sell!"  So the climb back up from the current $12.34 price could take a very long time.

So how do you know when the time is right to bottom fish on these beaten down stocks? 

You will see improving technical indicators (MACD, RSI, etc), improving volume on up days, decreasing volume on down days, perhaps some insider buying and better news coming out.  Analysts will begin to upgrade the stock.  Key resistance levels will be taken out.  The stock will rise above the 30, 50, and 200-day moving averages.

Of course, waiting for these things to develop means that you WILL NOT pick the exact bottom.  But so what?  If you wait to buy CFC at $7 instead of $4, and it goes to $15, you may not make quite as much profit, but you will substantially reduce the risk of losing all or part of your money.

Remember, when a knife falls off a table, and hits the floor, it does not usually bounce up high.  Instead, it usually dances and spins a little, then again falls to the floor, where it remains for however long it takes before someone picks it up.

This analogy holds true for stocks as well.

So remember to be patient, and do not try to catch the falling knife, or you may find yourself with a cut and bleeding portfolio!



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  1. Henry (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    You may be right. I may need your advise on my existing portfolios in mutual funds Are there any charges for your advices?
  2. Wayne (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Very good point
  3. Robert (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Ethan reinforces a basic trading (investing) tenet, and he sez it well. 5 stars.
  4. Cathy (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Love you analogy - very good advise.
  5. John M (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Good Morning Ethan,

    Excellent article. Good advice. It can also be said in many fewer words. Don't trade troughs or peaks. Trade trends only. Who hasn't made a blunder? I certainly have. Two of recent years after I had been trading for 25 years are Lucent and JDSU. I didn't purchase these as falling knife or bargain stocks. I merely was distracted and ended up in that position because I didn't dump them before they became long term holds. The only friend one has in these trades is time. I knew better when I purchased them. What made me do it? Maybe it was a slight contrarian "rebel without a cause" urge that surfaces once in a while when I see the herd going the other way. I admit this hoping others will learn from my mistakes. THINK thoroughly and consider the technicals and fundamentals of a tradeable before you plunk down your hard earned cash. Had I not bottom fished, I'd have avoided this embarrassing tale. I also did a similar thing at the top with TYCO. I held that in a profitless channel for at least six months. I didn't lose in that trade because I got my stake back with enough to pay my broker. But again, when you consider profit, you have to consider time in a trade. Six months sidewise is not profitable by any standard. Don't trade troughs or peaks. That's the simplest of rules and you will never end up skunked or with a knife in your foot.

    John Mahler
  6. Michael O (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Mr. Roberts



    Your point about the concept of "overhead supply" was very important. If a person does decide to take a position in a stock that has been beaten up for a long time, it is probable that a very large percent of the shares outstanding for that corporation are being held by frightened people who are showing a considerable loss. To buy stock into that situation means flying into the headwind of millions of shares being sold over time IF the price of the stock starts to recover. With weak EPS or large dept, the stock may never return.



    Cherry picking one winner from the hordes of losers is an art which comes about from a great understanding of the business and studying the financials of the corp. for hidden value.



    The home builders, mortgage companies and financials of all types are a perfect timely example. Yes, eventually true value will show itself among the mine field of this industry.
  7. Art (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    I know that to be a fact,been there done that and don't plan on doing it again.

    Take Intel,Emc,csco are just examples.
  8. Judy T (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. I just sold out the stocks I've been holding, waiting for them to rise. I'll miss some upside when they go up and it's a lot easier on my nervous system than watching them go down (and up and down further). Very timely advice.
  9. John M (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    A simple yet important philosophy..



    John
  10. Julia (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Ethan, you do have a way with words! I totally agree w/your strategy - it seems other Tycoons may disagree w/you though [there was an article last week that suggested we buy Citigroup]. Personally, I wouldn't touch any financial stocks w/a 10-foot pole right now. If I had "deep pockets" like Warren Buffet, it might prove to be profitable - but, for a small investor like myself, I think not.



    I think your article today is "on point" - very sound advice! Thanks.

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