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Profit From the System

Wednesday, November 21, 2007 | Chris Rowe

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Dylan asked me if I wanted to fill in for him today since we won't be publishing tomorrow because of Thanksgiving.  (Translation: Dylan has a case of writer's block today.)  So I'll briefly share with you what I'm seeing in the market so you can spend this weekend feeling confident about what we're looking at. 

You might recall last week's article, "A Profitable System", where I talked about my system and the importance of having a system.

(If you don't know what I'm talking about below, you might want to check out last week's article where I describe how this works.)

The NYSE Bullish Percent Index and the NASDAQ Bullish Percent Index have moved lower as the external indices (Dow, NASDAQ, NYSE, S&P 500) moved down to these low levels. 

Traders are wondering if this is going to be a double bottom.



My best guess is yes, but I'm not going to try to call a bottom.  My internal indicators are showing that we are, in fact, way oversold, but I will wait for the internal indicators to reverse back up before my market posture changes.  We are oversold, which makes my bearish positions a little riskier, but we are still in a short-term downtrend. 

In fact, when I realize that the stock market has bottomed out, it's only partially based on what the chart above is showing.  I'll explain...

The internal market leads the external market, as I said last Thursday.  In fact, the order that things usually move in is:

1. Sentiment
2. Internal Market
3. External Market
4. Sentiment.
5. And so on...

It starts off with "the market" moving lower, and as we get to a low point, investors become more and more bearish and less and less bullish.  But the fact is that when market sentiment gets to be excessively bearish, it's a contrary indicator, meaning that it's actually a bullish sign.  Remember, the sentiment is basically a reaction to what people see when they look at the external market.

The goal is to stay ahead of the crowd.  So I make it a point to clearly identify what's happening right now.  When I see sentiment is way too bearish, I'm preparing to get more bullish by putting together a shopping list of bullish positions that I will take when I get the next signal which comes from the internals.

Here's how the cycle works.

1. First the breadth of the market changes.  If we are talking about reversing higher from a low point, we would see a larger number of stocks move up again as more and more stocks are joining that bullish party.  We usually see this happen before the external market turns around and it becomes obvious to everyone else that mainly watches the external market.

2. The external market turns around.  At this point, individual investors and even professional investors are watching the S&P 500, Dow, NASDAQ, etc. to see if they break certain "resistance levels" or move above certain moving averages.  What they're looking for is confirmation that the new market rally "has legs".  This does make sense, and I do focus on that aspect, too.  But by this time, the internal market (if it's a real rally) would have already turned around.  We already saw the sentiment indicators change, and we saw the internals change, so we are already confident in the move.

(NOTE: Everyone who sees a market bounce off of a double bottom feels much more confident than when it made its first bounce - in August).

3. Sentiment changes.  In this case, the sentiment will have already changed from excessively bearish (a bullish sign) to kind of bullish and kind of bearish.  Eventually, people become more and more bullish until there is finally excessive bullishness.  At this point, the cycle begins again as we take it as a warning sign to reduce bullish exposure. 



The absolute recent market top was found with extremely excessive bullishness on October 11.  On that same day in a weekly commentary to The Trend Rider members, I said:

Let's respect this warning as we have both profited from it and have avoided losses because of it many times in the past.

Remember, there is still strength in the longer-term internals, but flags are going up. 

I don't want to act prematurely, but we must also accept that our timing is never going to be perfect.  And we don't have to act prematurely.  We only have to hedge, and reduce bullish exposure little by little.  We don't want to fight the trend or trade against the trend overall. 

One day prior, I sold out of a bullish position (AOB calls); the day of the high (October 11), I sold out of another bullish position (EMC calls).  The next day, I recommended puts in Amgen, and I sold out of  another bullish position.  The following day, I sold out of another bullish position, recommended one new bullish position on a stock in a much stronger sector, and I initiated a bearish position (and this was on a Friday).  And the following day I sold out of three more bullish positions.

In total, from October 10th through October 15th, I exited seven bullish positions (profitably), initiated another bullish position in a stronger sector, and initiated two bearish positions.

In one of the trade alerts (maybe more), when I exited a bullish position, I said this:

While I feel that this is a strong bull market, we have seen that there are currently TOO MANY bulls.  Therefore we have to reduce our bullish exposure.

November 6th, based on my indicators, I initiated two more bearish positions (on stocks in weak sectors) and another two a couple of days after that.



Not to brag, but I just want to show you what I do and why it works.

Anyway, I'm waiting for internals to turn up which is why I said near the beginning of the article that when I realize that the stock market has bottomed out, it's only partially based on what the chart above is showing.  I'll know what the sentiment indicators are tomorrow, but I think I have a feeling of what I'll see.

Dylan tells me to send his regards, and on behalf of Dylan, "GOBBLE GOBBLE".

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“Profit from the Trend”

Chris Rowe
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  1. Norman (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Doesn't Chris read the comments to his articles? I raised the question of "extremely excessive bearishness" at the top and now John has suggested it's a typo.
  2. John (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Interesting article but I believe there is a typo in the statement of "extremely excessive bearishness" at the Oct. 11 top. I assume you meant "bullishness".
  3. chaos_nantuko (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Internals seemed to turn up today. Low volume though. Should we wait for confirmation on monday?
  4. Ken (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Interesting article, very good as usual.

    I look at these internal indicators everyday, mostly because Don Worden goes over them eveyday in his report on TeleChart. There good for determining market sentiment and general strength and direction, but trading depends a lot on the time frame your interested in. Extremely short term, day trading and short term swing trading, these strengths matter less, if at all. Also extremely long term they seem to matter less. Its really the short to mid term position trading that follow this sort of sentiment the most.

    Great stuff to know, but it needs to be put in perspective, as do all the diffeent market knowledges.

    I'm finding this to be one of the more difficult trading lessons, sorting out the different perspectives, and the people promoting them, and eliminating what insnt really necessary to me.

    I'm inclined to err with the traders who say everything necessary to trade is in the charts, to a certain extent at least.



    Thanks, Ken
  5. jeff (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    As always the articles are amazing. I can not express how helpful you and the staff are. The articles are not just full of info but you guys add some humor as well. That makes for a great read. PLEASE KEEP UP THE MOST EXCELLENT WORK.
  6. Sharon (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Ah, Chris,

    You are a true believer in education/information for all of us who are do-it-your-selfers.

    Your willingness to educate and inform is so very much appreciated. We/I appreciate and am so very grateful to You, Teeka, Wayne, Jason and Dylan and the rest of the family at TTR.



    karmhs: Chris is not allowed to recommend any one specific site that gives you the place to go to find the indicators. But one of the places where you can find the indicators are at: InvestorsIntelligence.com. They have free and paid subscriptions. They also have a one month trial for a paid subscription. You will want to look at US Stocks if you want paid. Reasonably priced. Think the NASDAQ and other Indices also have the indicators, but please check it out.



    Ethan: You are absolutely right about the power of the WORD. Just look at Jim Cramer, he should change his name to 'Simon Says.'



    The market will go up and down, over-bought and over-sold. It can stay over-bought for a very long time, but rarely stays over-sold for very long. Where will the bottom and/or the top be tomorrow, or even if the market is sideways? Sorry, don't have a crystal ball. Just do what Chris says and keep your eyes on the charts and your ears on the news. READ TTR, all of the CIOs are willing to give us as much information/education as they are allowed, by law.



    To All the Subscribers, Readers, and TTR Family! Happy Thanksgiving. Financial Prosperity is ours for the taking, let's be thankful and grateful. Believe me, I am very Grateful and Thankful for all of you.

    Best, SEE YOU AT THE TOP!

    Sharon MR
  7. Norman (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Thoroughly confusing. What are the sentiment indicators? Was sentiment at the recent top, Oct.11, bullish or bearish? What is it now? You wrote: "The absolute recent market top was found with extremely excessive bearishness on October 11." Isn't extreme bearishness a bullish indicator?
  8. karmhs (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Sounds great. The main thing is not to panic. The bottom shouldn't be more than a total of 10% away from the top. That's what everyone was predicting, so when we hit that area the big money will start buying and the market will be ready to crawl back up. It sounds like self fulfillment.
  9. karmhs (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    The article was quite informative, however where do we access the relevant indicators that you refer to?
  10. Edward (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Another top-quality article with succinct, easy-to-understand information from the one & only Chris Rowe! Great stuff! Keep up the good work!



    Happy Thanksgiving to all at Tycoon Report!

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