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Why 'Nice Guy' Landlords Finish Last

Friday, October 9, 2009 | Ethan Roberts

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The late Leo Durocher (1905-'91), a Hall of Fame baseball player and manager, was often credited with a famous remark that "Nice guys finish last."

This originated with a 1946 interview in which he commented that ball players who were nice to their teammates and got along well together, did not necessarily create a winning ball club. 

Durocher was referring to the San Francisco Giants, who had reputations for being great guys. Despite this, they would nevertheless go on to finish last in the National League that year.

'No More Mr. Nice Guy'

Leo, who wasn't much of a ballplayer, made the Hall of Fame because of his 2,009 career victories as a manager.  But he was mostly known for his tendency to argue with umpires, and was in fact ejected 95 times during his managerial career. 

No nice guy there!

The meaning of Leo Durocher's famous quote has been erroneously modified over the years to say that, if you are nice, you WILL AUTOMATICALLY do poorly -- as opposed to Durocher's meaning that, despite being nice, they WOULD STILL do poorly.




Leo 'The Lip' Durocher

Well, wrong meaning or not, today I want to relate Leo Durocher's famous quote to a topic that several readers have asked me about recently -- how to be a better landlord and succeed with one's tenants.

The Landlord's Golden Rules

A few months ago, I wrote an article in The Tycoon Report in which I said that landlords should never rent to friends, family members or co-workers, because it becomes too difficult to take the necessary actions if rents are not paid, or the property is damaged in some way.

Similarly, one should never become friends with their tenants, for the same reason.  How are you going to evict the same guy you watch football with every Sunday, or just played poker with last night?!



'I don't care if you have four kings; you owe me $500 for the rent!'


When it comes to being a landlord, nice guys definitely finish last!  A landlord should always be fair, yet firm with his tenants. 

If you think you are being mean by adhering to the stipulations of the lease, then you may not be cut out to be a landlord.  And if you are too "wimpy" to have to give non-paying tenants an ultimatum, then maybe you need to have your spouse or professional property managers handle your rental properties.

Tenants' Teenage-Type Rebellion


Some tenants may assume their landlords are extremely wealthy, and an irresponsible tenant will rationalize that skipping out on rent is justified because "the landlord can afford it."  Other tenants may either be jealous or resentful of the landlord's "wealth," and so they don't mind "sticking it to him."

I have found that a significant percentage of tenants sometimes behave like children, in a way that psychologically replicates the parent-child relationship with their landlord.  This is done by acting out (e.g., not paying rent, damaging the home), or they will test the landlord's "parental" authority by being late with rent or making only partial payments.

Therefore, the landlord needs to be the "good parent," by being firm and assertive (but not aggressive) with his tenants.  Landlords who are meek, afraid of confrontation, or lacking in their own confidence are like parents who let their children do whatever they want without parental controls or behavioral limits set.

Psychology aside, the biggest mistake that a landlord can make is failing to treat their rental properties like a business.  Real estate is unique in that, although one buys real estate as an investment, being a landlord is actually a business just like many other businesses.

Imagine that you are the owner of a clothing store.  One day a woman walks in, tries on a few dresses, then approaches you at the counter, and says,  "Hello Mrs. Smith.  I have some bad news.  I was laid off last month, but I really need these dresses to interview for another job.  So I'll just take them anyway, but without paying this time, OK?  Thanks, have a nice day!"

Would you allow this to happen?


Well, tenants who fail to pay rent on the home or apartment that you own and lease to them, are stealing from you, just the same as someone who would shoplift from your store!

 


These women are not likely to pay their rent, either...

 
When a landlord "allows" a tenant to get away with non-payment of rent, it is really no different than allowing them to steal from you.  But why would a landlord do this?  Well, it may be for the following reasons:

  1. He feels sorry for the tenant, or the tenant's recent difficulty.
     
  2. He believes the tenant who swears they will make it up in the next week or two.
     
  3. He mistakenly believes that it will be easier or cheaper to wait for the money, rather than evict the tenant and get someone new into the home.
     
  4. He is trying to be the "nice guy," and doesn't want to evict someone who is having difficulties.

A Typical Story

Let me tell you a story about an inexperienced landlord I know, who recently went through some of what I just detailed above.  Let's call her "Sally" (not her real name).

Sally owns a rental property in Central Florida.  She has a tenant couple who paid $800 a month, and for a while they were quite regular with their payments. 

However, a few months ago, the tenants missed a rent payment, and the husband told Sally that he had lost his job, and he and his wife couldn't afford to pay that much rent anymore.   The tenants' lease with Sally had recently expired, and they were now renting month-to-month.

Sally had a decision to make.  With no current lease in place, and with one month's missed payment, she could simply give written notice that they would have to move out, or else she could try to work something out with them. 

She chose the latter option, and verbally informed them that she would discount the rent to $400 for a while.

For the next two months, the tenants paid the $400 rent, but then this month were again late, and Sally's attempts to contact the husband were unsuccessful. 

A few days later, the wife called her, and told Sally that the husband did not return her calls because, supposedly, he has the swine flu

Sally told the wife that she had to have the rent money immediately.

The husband finally called Sally the other day.  He said that they still want to stay in the home (why wouldn't they?), and asked how much rent will he have to pay.  Sally said that with the mortgage she pays, she cannot afford to continue charging him only $400 a month. 

A local realtor had told Sally that the going area rent for her property was more like $600 than $800, so Sally told the tenant that she was willing to meet him in the middle at $600 a month. 

She also said that he will need to make additional payments until he catches up for the month that he missed. 

As of this writing, they are still negotiating the various terms.

Learning From Mistakes

Sally made several classic mistakes that new landlords often make. 
 
First, she might have been better off asking the tenant to leave, rather than discounting his rent by 50%. 

Second, she failed to put the new terms in writing, and left it vague by saying he could have this discount "for a while." 

Third, any new discounted rent agreement should have been made contingent upon the tenant paying Sally the $800 back rent that he owed her from the prior month.


Mistakes like the ones that Sally made often lead novice landlords to become frustrated by their tenants, and to prematurely give up real estate investing as a result. 

Rather than looking at what they could have done differently to prevent many of the problems from occurring, it is much easier to blame real estate investing as being the culprit.

This is similar to people with no a priori knowledge, who impulsively begin playing the stock market with penny stocks or volatile, low-priced issues. Then, after losing their money, they decide never to buy stocks again because "you can't win with stocks."

What makes it worse is that these novice landlords then tell other people they know about their negative experience with the "nightmare tenants," which then foolishly turns off those people to ever try real estate investing for themselves. 

Rules of the Real Estate Investing Road


The fact is that with real estate investing, just like with stocks, one needs to do the educational research FIRST, before getting one's feet wet. 

The people who lost their shirts by buying overpriced real estate in 2006, failed to do enough research to see that the economic conditions could not sustain the parabolic price increases that were rampant.  They were no different than the persons who started buying high-flying tech stocks near the market peak in the year 2000!

Look, I urge people to invest in real estate, because I have seen firsthand that it can be an extremely profitable mode of investing when done correctly.  But before you begin to invest, you must learn as much as possible about how to do it the right way

To that end, I will continue to provide the education one needs, right here through The Tycoon Report.

I would also love to hear from readers who (past or present) have encountered difficulties, as well as successes from being a landlord. 

One will, of course, learn and grow as they gain experience.  I have made my share of mistakes, but you will have the benefit of learning from these articles, so that you can avoid many of those mistakes.

So remember -- with your spouse, your family and your friends, it's wonderful to be a nice guy!  But when it comes to being a landlord,

 


 

See you next week!


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  1. Glen (14 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    I would love to invest in rental properties, but cannot due to health issues. Is there an ETF that would allow me to invest smaller amounts and avoid a direct managerial role?
  2. JJ (15 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    I would like to say to Chuck that the landlords I know (including myself) DO have compassion for tenants that fall upon hard times and try to work with them. But when the hard times stretch on for an extended period of time and the rent goes unpaid month after month, then the landlord risks financial problems him/herself and possibly even losing their house because they can't make the mortgage payment. Expecting to be paid for the home you are providing another individual is NOT GREED. Landlords are not charitable organizations, they are running a business and they will no longer be able to stay in that business if they don't get paid. How would you react if you worked at your job and your boss refused to give you a paycheck on payday because he was having some kind of personal problem? What if that happened several paydays in a row? Would you think that was fair? There is NO DIFFERENCE.
  3. Angel (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    From: Nice Guy Always Prosper

    <The character of a good landlord sounds like me>

    <My judgement over tenants who doesn't pay is up

    to the Lord><What was cheated will come back triple><You will not ended broke><If you handle

    business in greed, all your sweat come to nothing><The world doesn't function this way>
  4. Chris R (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    CHRIS ROWE HERE

    Once again, another great article Ethan.
  5. Jack (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Your points are well taken and right on the money. It is a business, tenants either pay or leave. Where is his unemployment check going? When he had a job where is that rainy day savings account of a minimum of two or three months salary? Did the electric company, water company, and bank holding you car note all take less money? I don't think so.



    There is only one "flaw" in your advice. When it comes to evictions in FL the counties and sheriff are "slow" - very slow. Instead of weeks it can take months to get an eviction done and of course the counties blame this poor service on their smaller budgets. The courts are also slow and not particularly supportive or sympatheic to the plight of small investors. The politicians, city council members and county supervisiors alike, are also piling on, by suggesting new laws that further restrict and penalize the small landlord and responsible investors in order to pay for the mistakes and sins of the irresponsible speculators who are not paying their mortgage resulting in good renters who pay rent being kicked out (evicted) of homes going into foreclose. Maybe if they put non-paying renters at the FRONT of the evicition list, then fewer landlords would be defaulting and going into foreclosure.



    I have a renter I just evicted. Her daughter and her make MORE money than me. This person just didn't feel like paying the rent. So I evicted them, the 4-2-2 house in Brandon is still vacant and waiting for a new tenant. The real rub is that the woman didn't loose her job, she has a high paying job with Hillsborough County, FL. The county will want their money next month in property taxes, which help pay this "B" salary, but they do little to help me collect the money I lost in rent and damage, which amounts to more than I owe in HIGH property taxes. High taxes, because under Gov Crist there was NO property tax rollback or reform for the investor. If the lazy US Post Office ever gets me her forwarding address, which I paid for and am still waiting for, I will serve her and sue her in small claims court, get a judgenment and then hopefully will be able to collect that judgement. The local and state government needs to start supporting those who "pay" the bills and stop enabling the "loosers" and "free loaders" who are destroying our society and bankrupting this once great country.



    Landlord Motto: Take NO Prisioners!

    Our Battle Cry: Either pay or take the highway!
  6. jim (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Another good article. I have been in this bussiness a long time., (45 years). For years I tried to be the nice guy. I would listen to there sad stories and let them postpone the rent till next week. Then when next week came it was 3 days latter. Then they would give you just a little and another promise for the next week. Finally after they owed me about 2 months rent I would give them an invection notice. Now who do you think was the bad guy. Yes it was me. I guess I am still a little too easy. If a person has been a good renter and taking care of the house I will do my best to work with them for a couple of weeks. Sometimes this works and sometimes it don't. I rented a house just 2 weeks ago. It was vacant for 3 weeks. I had at least 10 people that came by wanting to pay 1/2 the rent now and the rest next week. Some wanted to pay the deposit

    later. I just said no. I didn't get it rented as soon as I would have liked, but the right one did come along with a job and money in their pocket.

    Also I have found out over the years the ones that are slow paying or late on their rent are also bad housekeepers and rough on your property.
  7. Chuck (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Not everyone is as fortunate as you. People get laid off, lose their income, and can't always make their rent. Good people too. No need to be so greedy. Look at what greed has done to this country. If you can help someone in need out then do it. A little more consideration from everyone and we wouldn't be in this economic mess we're in. I thought landlords were human beings. Humans without hearts is what you're advocating. It's time to help each other out where and when we can. Have a little compassion for the unfortunate. There, but for the grace of

    God, go I. Try not to forget that landlords.
  8. Mike (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    You are right on. I have been a landlord for 0ver 25 years(several single family homes).



    I have had very few renters catch up after they get behind. It is a business.



    Mike
  9. Nandan C (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    Your comments about landlords and tenants are always biased against the tenant, The assumption is always that the landlord is the good, honest, and reasonable person while the tenant is stupid, dishonest, and unreasonable. You are entitled to your own point of view but when you constantly say the same thing, it gets old and boring. I know good tenants who have been victimized by bad landlords and good landlords who have been victimized by bad tenants. It works BOTH ways!
  10. bill (23 weeks ago) Is this Spam?

    I have been in the landlord business for 25 years , only manage my own properties. Good article. My advice get a good attorney that also dose collections and tell all tenants that if you owe me money they will collect. thanks bill

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