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The Investing and Trading Temperament

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 | Jason Jovine

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Housecleaning...

I recommended Citigroup (Symbol: C) last Tuesday at just over $28 per share.  At that price, I believe it is a good buy.  I could be wrong, but I think that I am right.  Every single time that I recommend a stock some people disagree with me.  It takes courage to buy something when everyone else hates it.  At the end of 2008, we will see if I was right.  Stay tuned.....

Back to business....


I started on Wall Street back in 1992.  I can’t believe that it has been over 15 years!  Anyway, every single day, I see people making the same mistakes that I made back when I was brand new to investing and trading.

I understand better now than ever before what Socrates meant when he said that experience cannot be taught.  At times, it can be frustrating when I try to explain to people how to view the market as a whole instead of in a myopic way that most people are using to see the market and life in general, for that matter, but I have found that many people have to learn the hard way.

In other words, it’s kind of like a parent who is trying to tell his child to avoid a certain behavior but the child does it anyway.  Most times, people just have to experience things for themselves to realize the right way.

When it comes to investing, it is no different.  The way that these types of lessons are taught in the market is by your losing money!

When you lose money in the market, it should be the equivalent of touching a hot flame.  It should teach you, and you should learn from your mistakes.  Ask yourself, “What did I do wrong?”

Many people just get frustrated after losing money time and time again and just hand over their money to a so-called “professional” to do the dirty work for them.

What can you do to increase your chances of being right?

1.    Buy the names on the dips….

Back on 7.31.07, I recommended  a little company that you may have heard of called Proctor & Gamble (Symbol PG) at $63.  Eighteen weeks later, the stock was just over $75 per share for almost a 20% return.



(The red circle is where I bought it.  The green circle is its high so far.)

You may say that 20% isn’t a big deal.  I would counter that the amount of risk that I took for that 20% was relatively minimal.

Remember, folks, that it is about getting the maximum amount of return with the least amount of risk.  I could recommend speculative stocks and options to you all day and show you astronomical returns, but if I am wrong, you may go broke!!

I believe that you need to live to fight another day.  You and I both know that it is much harder to make money than it is to lose it.  The bottom line is this:  buy quality companies on the dips.  I am not saying that you should not have some fun and take some risk with a relatively small portion of your portfolio (e.g. 5-10%), but don’t risk more than you can afford to lose.

2.    Understand the forces at work

Wall Street is a game.  I took the subways in New York City for many years.  There would be people on them with every imaginable game to con me out of money.  Heck, I was actually a New York City Guardian Angel when I was a teenager patrolling Hell’s Kitchen in Manhattan.  Need I say more?

Some stock brokers play financial ping pong with stocks so that they can make money by charging fees.  There is a lot of window dressing that goes on, as well.  There are stocks that have buy and sell recommendations on them when they shouldn’t, etc.  It is all about money.

Besides the games that Wall Street firms play, greed and fear drive the market as well.

There is another important force at work call asymmetric information.  This basically means that it is not a level playing field out there.  Some people are more educated and/or intelligent than others.  Some people may have access to better financial software than others.  Some people, of course, have more time and money (i.e. resources) than others.  Finally some people may have better information than others (i.e. better connected).

If you think that insider trading doesn’t happen on Wall Street all of the time, then I have a bridge to sell you.  I remember watching my monitor many times after I had heard that a company had been taken over or some other announcement occurred.  Without fail, there would be an increase in volume (i.e. buying) in the stock days and weeks before the deal.

It is absolutely not a level playing field out there!!  This is one reason why the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer.  Since most people are “Average Joe’s”, so to speak, and don’t have the connections that these connected corporate hacks do, I would advise you to focus on what you can control.

Focus on getting as educated as you can about the market.

So the primary forces at work on Wall Street are:

a)    Wall Street manipulation
b)    Greed & Fear
c)    Asymmetric information


3.    Control your emotions


Some have argued that one of the reasons that Warren Buffet is so successful is that he has a good temperament when it comes to investing.  He lives in Nebraska and does not get caught up in the day-to-day tricks of Wall Street.

To help you control your emotions when it comes to the market:

a)    Remember that the market always goes up over the long term
b)    Don’t risk more than you can afford to lose.
c)    Remember that risk and reward go hand in hand.
d)    Only buy companies that you feel have been thoroughly researched or on the advice of someone in whom you are confident and who has proven himself or herself.

4.    Do it yourself or follow someone’s advice?

Some people like to do it all themselves.  They like to come up with their own picks and don’t need and/or want anyone else to tell them what to buy.  If this is working for you, then God Bless!

If you are the type of person who looks to a “professional” or an investment newsletter for advice, then I want to make a few things crystal clear to you regarding an investment newsletter.

a)    Focus on quality of trades; not quantity.

I cannot tell you how moronic it is to say that I don’t like a newsletter because it doesn't give enough ideas when the newsletter has an amazing track record.

In other words, would you like to get 3-4 new ideas a month from a guy who is right 70-80% of the time or get 10 new recommendations a month from a guy who is right 30-40% of the time?

I don’t know about you, but I would certainly choose the former over the latter.

b)    Make sure the newsletter writer explains things well

In other words, although the editor of the newsletter may have more knowledge about the market and know more of the Wall Street jargon than you do, he should be able to explain complicated ideas to you in a very understandable way.

The more abstract, the more deceptive.  Usually when people don’t speak in plain English, they either are trying to hide something or just don’t know what they are talking about.

c)    Look at the history of his/her performance.

No matter how good someone is, every stock picker and trader or investor goes through hot and cold streaks.  I have seen people sign up for newsletters in the past and have them for just a few weeks before canceling because the newsletter editor was in the middle of a “cold streak’.  After they canceled, the editor got hot again.

It is kind of like that cartoon where the guy is playing the slot machines in Las Vegas all day with no luck and then just gives up.  As soon as he walks away, a little old lady comes by and puts one coin in the machine and wins all of the money.

Keep the editor's performance in perspective.  Look at his or her entire track record, not just a snapshot, and whether he or she has been right more often than wrong; then have some patience.

d)    Nobody is right 100% of the time.

I don’t care how good anyone is at picking stocks or options, but of course, remember that no one will be right 100% of the time.  Although, every single stock that I have recommended while writing for The Tycoon Report has gone higher after I have recommended it, I am no exception.

You just want to find people who will be right a lot more than they will be wrong.

In closing...

Remember that you are the CEO of your own company.  Your household is your corporation, first and foremost, and you have to run it as such.  Business 101 says to keep your costs low and keep revenue up.

You have to be cold and calculated in many respects to make those tough and profitable business decisions.  Don’t be afraid to make mistakes, but be very afraid if you aren’t learning from them.

Until the next time, folks, spend your hard-earned money wisely.

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  1. Ken (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    C is definately something worth putting on a watchlist for someday. But buying value simply for the sake of value is a stupid investment policy. Value is simply a fundamental indicator, and as such needs to be supported by something far more dynamic. Like perhaps a change in the price trend???



    I've seen too many value oriented newsletter writers pull the same game. You buy value or recomend that your readers buy value. Then when the price drops further, you recomend buying more and average down.

    Thereby, building a huge position in an underperforming stock. With no definate idea when it will break out of its down trend. No idea how long it will take to start moving back up. And no idea of what rate it will move at if and when its starts to rally. All we know is the rate it is falling at, and continues to fall at.



    Perhaps it would be a better idea to wait. Patiently wait. Untill you see a bottom form. And then wait more. Untill you see buyers start to come back in, and the stock break out of its bottom, and a new uptrend to start.



    Anything sooner and your just as likely to see the existing downtrend continue or resume.



    Will C stop at the 2002 lows of 22.83, or will it break through and drop to the 98 lows of 13.30, or further?? Maybe that consolidation in 96 will catch it at about 10.50, or perhaps the highs from 93 at 7.50.



    Got the idea, you dont know when this will stop. I dont know when this will stop.



    We can all play follow the leader and throw our money at the market just as the first real bear market in 5 years starts. Or we can wait for a sign.



    The choice is yours. Wait in the market, or wait out of the market. Either way, you wont make any money untill the criteria listed above take place.



    No one ever profited buying a down trend. Its always the subsequent uptrend that makes the money.
  2. Paul (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Astutely insightful and intellectually honest aproach. Provides reassurance and credibility in an area elusive and obscure.



    Readers, in their hearts, know that entities solely focused on making money from newsletters 'beg the question'. Subscribers need to see 'the rest of the logic'. I appreciate the imprint of genuine reality and value in your contributions.



    Good job!
  3. toofer (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    I truly enjoyed this article, well thought out and well written. My thoughts on CITI are as follows:



    Citi is here to stay... unless it continues going down to $.12, then goes away, the stock becomes worhless as the company reorganizes and comes out with a new name, new symbol and the current stock is worthless. :)) I've been there and done that.



    Otherwise it will establish a base, turn around and go to $65 in the future.



    None of this is known to me at this time, so all I can do is wait and watch.
  4. heide (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    your star system is hard to use, I wanted to give you for stars. Very good advise!
  5. Sandi (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Made a lot of sense.
  6. Frank (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    I am new to all of this . Your news is helpful.

    I look forward to more . Thanks.

    I Hope C works out in a year . Its my first stock



    Frank
  7. John M (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Good Morning Jason,

    Great up front and open article. You make some very sage points. I agree with you, my prosperity is only my responsibility; even if I would choose to use a broker to do the dirty (fun) work for me.

    You are correct that no one is right all the time! But I once worked with Bill B. who was so notoriously wrong every time; just taking the opposite position or strategy would net me great profits. His nick name was W.W. Corrrigan. He was a technical trader who did point and figure, stochastics, candle sticks, and could quote statistical information like some can quote baseball, auto racing or foot ball plays, scores, etc. He knew so much information it was amazing he could so consistently be wrong. I marveled when he showed me his understanding of Elliot Wave Theory. I even made it work once. That's when I realized his great error.

    Bill had no feeling for the market. It is not all in technique. It is not all in data. It is not all in various strategies. When one plays the markets, he must remember not to focus narrowly. That was Bill's problem. He put all his eggs in his understanding of a particular strategy he was in love with in a given moment. Not every strategy works on every stock in every time frame.

    If any of that works, it works by coincidence. It works the same for fortune tellers and gamblers. Coincidence is a powerful trickster which will make fools of every winner who tries the same play more than once.



    If you have done your fundamental homework, have a trend going, use an entry strategy, and have set your stops (both up and down) you will consistently make money. Bill had two more loser streaks which I am still fighting to overcome.

    1) He was a contrarian for the sake of being one.

    2) He believed in "riding it out". He would have made a wonderful captain on a sinking ship.



    When you are losing, GET OUT. Any loss is less than losing the farm. Bill did that too. He lost his car, his house, and ultimately his mate. Bill is now deceased from cancer. He smoked like a chimney and passed away in 1998 of lung cancer. I used to tell him he could probably have recovered some of his money just giving up cigs. He used to laugh and tell me to mind my own business. He said he had so little satisfaction in life that cigs and coffee were his only pleasures.



    That brings up the final point. Bill hated trading. He didn't love it like most of us do. If you hate this game, get out of it and do something else. It will kill you. You will get crushed from the inside out. First your confidence goes, then your heart or lungs go. You stay in the game because you think you can't make it anywhere else.You stay in the game because your ego says,"Just one more big win". That's the thinking of a degenerate gambler.



    Bill was a great auto mechanic. He had a sports car he kept in top shape and wouldn't let anyone but himself do all the maintenance on it. He would be a millionaire if he had started a business repairing sports cars and put his money in a mutual fund at the time. You don't have to be a Wall Streeter to be successful. But being one when you are not cut out to be one will surely ruin you.



    If you want to get rich, meet Bill. There are thousands of Bills. Do the opposite of anything they do and you will make big bucks. Don't feel sorry for Bill. He is his own worst enemy and will take no advice from you. If you do know a Bill, just use him like any other technical indicator. Call him the Bill indicator. Or, call him the WWC indicator. In fact if you want to meet him study the put call charts near expiration. LOL



    John Mahler
  8. wes (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    This is the first news letter that I felt gave me an honest slant on investing. thanks wes
  9. J (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Hi!!! This is Jason Jovine here. I just want to thank all of you out there for posting comments to my article. It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with me.Of course those of you who agree with me, I like better( just kidding). I think that Citigroup is a great company that I have personally done business with for years. They are having some trouble right now along with many other financial institutions primarily becuase of this subprime mess.



    That said, I am confident in the new leadership at Citigroup to turn things around; specifically Dr. Vikram Pandit. He understands finance very well.



    To quote Dr. Pandit, "Our financial results this quarter are clearly unacceptable. Our poor performance was driven primarily by two factors – significant write-downs and losses on our sub-prime direct exposures in fixed income markets, and a large increase in credit costs in our U.S. consumer loan portfolio. Looking beyond these two factors, revenues and volumes continued to grow strongly in a number of our franchises and we generated record results in international consumer, transaction services, wealth management, and advisory,".



    The bottom line is folks, that Citgroups issues are limited in scope and they have the right team in place to clean it up. I am not looking at it as a trade. I am looking at it as an investment. You should to. Talk to you soon. Jason
  10. Dej (1 year ago) Is this Spam?

    Jason,



    I have to disagree with you on this. How cheap is cheap? it's like trying to catch a falling knive.



    Do you believe in having a stop loss? Say you buy citi at $28, where would you put your stop loss? I believe this stock still has some more downside.

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